On the EDge: Time for millennials to clean up our mess

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OPINION – There’s a growing chasm between the aging baby boomers and millennials.

The grumpy, curmudgeonly geezers are reviling the millennials – those in the 18-35 age group. There’s a natural jealousy, of course, of their energy and youthfulness. There are also some stark political and cultural chasms widening that divide.

This generational gap is really nothing new.

We went through it during the ‘60s.

As baby boomers, we emerged as the largest voting bloc in America.

And, quite frankly, we botched it.

We caved, giving in to the greed and ignorance that we criticized our elders for – anybody remember the “Don’t trust anybody over 30” mantra?

We were going to change the world.

Only we didn’t.

We set out to chase racism from the landscape.

All we did was drive it further underground where it still festers despite the best of efforts.

We were going to cleanse the planet.

Instead, we have contributed mightily to the decline of our one and only Earth through our development of a disposable society that ranges from cars and computers and television sets to other goods that simply will not recycle.

We were going to fix a corrupt and evil government system that culminated in the disgrace of Richard “I Am Not a Crook” Nixon.

Instead, we have a White House, Congress and state legislatures bought and firmly in the control of special interests groups like Big Pharma, Big Oil and, of course, the National Rifle Association.

The millennials, as evidenced by the articulate students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida where 17 lives were snuffed out by a punk with an assault rifle, are taking aim at the NRA and the politicians it controls.

God bless them.

I have grandchildren in the school system.

I want them safe, damn it!

I have friends with children and grandchildren in school systems across the nation.

I want them safe, too.

I don’t want to hear about school shootings as a societal ill or bad parenting or any of that other stuff. It’s a cop out. I don’t want to shrug these tragedies off with “thoughts and prayers” that have not stopped these killings. All that does is deflect from the problem: people are bringing semi-automatic weapons into our schools and slaughtering innocent young lives. People are taking weapons into churches, movie theaters, shopping malls, nightclubs and slaughtering innocent people.

I want everyone to be safe.

I want a solution.

I’ve heard talk about arming our teachers.

That’s not the answer. In fact, of the teachers I have spoken with since those 17 lives were taken from us, none has warmed to the idea of guns in the classroom.

“Hell, no,” said one. “It’s the most ridiculous idea I’ve ever heard.”

“Enough! Republicans, end these stupid solutions and pass legislation that works,” said a former teacher of mine.

In the wake of the news that a trained sheriff’s deputy ducked to safety while the killing went down at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, what makes those pushing for weapons in the classroom so sure that a teacher would be able to drop the hammer on a bad guy with a gun? Unless you have ever drawn a weapon in anger, you have no idea about the myriad thoughts that go through your head, the doubts, the moral conflict at the prospect of actually taking a human life.

Who would be responsible for arming the teachers? School districts nationwide are on tight budgets as it is. Are you willing to endure a tax hike for the hours of training, practice and necessary qualifying exercises a teacher would need to carry a gun on campus? Are you willing to pay for the guns and ammo necessary plus the range fees for the constant practice shooting requires? Just because some gun aficionado likes to plink cans on the weekend or hunt during deer season does not mean they are qualified to act as a surrogate law enforcement officer. Besides, as we saw in Florida, when lives were at stake, a sworn officer of the law chose to hide rather than protect the children and confront the shooter. How would a teacher hold up under that pressure?

How would teachers be picked for armed duty? Who would determine the mental fitness of a teacher selected as one of the armed guards? You can’t just hand it off to the gym teachers and coaches who are often located in different corners of the campus.

There is also the danger of sorting out the good guys from the bad. If a school shooting is going down, law enforcement is going to draw down, at the very least, on anybody holding a weapon at the scene. They will then disarm and interrogate the teacher, meaning fewer officers will be able to chase the real shooter.

There are new voices in this debate, however, vibrant voices blessed with an energy fueled by youth.

In 2016, only about half of all eligible millennials voted. However, if current passions remain and our youth hold their focus, that could change sharply for the upcoming midterms, the impetus coming from the Florida shooting. They could very well supplant the boomers in the voting booth in November if they continue to unify their voice, which could happen as the March 24 March for Our Lives and April 20 school walkouts take place.

I am hoping that in the run-up to the midterms every effort is made to register these young people to vote so they can institute the changes we were unable to make and repair the damage we left in our wake.

I don’t know if we just got complacent or lazy or too tired.

Whatever the reasons, we failed.

That’s why I support those young voices. We have, for too many years, ignored them whether through arrogance or ignorance, which helped carve that deep generational chasm between millennials and the aging baby boomers who are starting to sound like a bad Andy Rooney rant when talking about our young people.

That has got to stop.

It’s time for the geezers to either lend a hand or step out of the way.

No bad days!

Ed Kociela is an opinion columnist for St. George News. The opinions stated in this article are his own and may not be representative of St. George News.

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  • Lastdays February 27, 2018 at 7:37 am

    I usually ignore Ed’s commentaries, but had to chime in on this one.
    So the gist of this rant is that we let 18-35 yr olds start making all the important decisions facing us right now because the “old geezers” have botched our country. That’s the most ridiculous idea I’ve ever heard presented in a public forum.
    I think Ed and many young people have forgot about all the efforts that were made to put on paper our inalienable Rights and Freedoms the Constitution has listed. These are not rights the Government gave us, these are Rights that were put on paper to be fully understood and protected.
    I understand the high level of emotionally driven comments since the Florida school shooting, but now is not the time for emotionally driven legislation.
    The millennials don’t currently learn about the importance of this document and what others went through to formulate it’s writings.
    The Constitution didn’t come until 11 yrs after we declared our independence from the King of England.
    Much intelligent debate was had during those 11 yrs. I’m sure it was emotionally driven, but pure common sense eventually overruled.
    The Bill of Rights came 4 years after that from much heated debate as to the wording of the “Rights” we already had but carefully constructed and placed into the first 10 Amendments.

    So, before the country starts making threats to each other and organizations they “think” are responsible for these shootings, cooler heads need to prevail and common sense solutions need to be discussed. Maybe there needs to be a serious conversatation about banning video games where the user is dressed in full combat gear and racks up points killing every thing that appears on the screen.

    These solutions WILL NOT come from 18-35 yr olds. These solutions will come from the wisdom of people who have can discuss serious issues with the absence of highly charged emotions or agendas. These are qualities that the younger crowd (and many old geezers) do not possess at this time.

    • No Filter February 27, 2018 at 9:25 am

      Who are you to say that millennials don’t learn about the constitution, your generation wrote the school books, did you leave that part out? Whether you like it or not they are future of our country and our world. We live in their world now and like Ed said its either lend a hand or move out of the way because the baby boomers are a thing of the past. Policy makers have had years to address mass shootings, its not like this was the first incident. What do you do when something doesn’t work, you try something else. If Thomas Edison kept trying the same thing over and over we may have never had the invention of the light bulb. You sound like a consultant for fox news with your “its not the time to talk about gun control we need to give the families time to grieve”. Well when is it going to be time to talk about gun control? I think the kids of our nation just decided for us all, it’s now.

      • St Geo February 27, 2018 at 10:51 am

        “What do you do when something doesn’t work? You you try something else.”
        Allowing teachers to be armed is a trying something else.

  • observant one February 27, 2018 at 8:58 am

    When we freedom loving hippies decided that the Government should decide whats best, it was indeed botched.

  • statusquo February 27, 2018 at 9:04 am

    Well said LastDays. Ed represents the typical knee jerk desperation from the left that got us into the mess our country is now facing. I agree that a lack of wisdom from a younger generation will not liberate us from these problems but only continue the downward spiral.

    David Barton (Wall Builders) provides great insight into how far we have fallen from the foundations of our nation. For instance, the first Bible printed in the United States was commissioned by congress for the public education of children. The congressional chambers were also used for church worship in the early days. There were no school shootings until the liberals removed the moral foundation from our government education system.

    • No Filter February 27, 2018 at 10:24 am

      I still can’t get over how so many people think a fictional book is going to save the world. When will you people learn that people like David Barton are just out to get money from suckers like you.

      • John February 27, 2018 at 4:33 pm

        Your’e comparing eggs and oranges moron, Get a clue and maybe after you become twelve your two moms can discuss the facts of life with you, little girl.. always crying and throwing a tantrum when you are proved wrong every time, just like the spoiled little misinformed child you are. Grow up and face facts, you aren’t getting them from the sources you use.. waaaah waaaah waaah ! go cry to somebody who gives a hoot…

    • John February 27, 2018 at 10:42 am

      The school shootings started after Joe Biden introduced the “Gun Free School Zone ” laws in 1990 and turned our children into defenseless targets.
      Who was in charge of Congress in 1990 ?
      Senate Majority Democratic
      House Majority Democratic
      I think understanding party platforms will tell you quite a bit about how we got here.
      Another failed democrat liberal policy.
      My AR15 self identifies as a nerf gun. It deserves special rights. Liberal policies are mostly foolish !

      • No Filter February 27, 2018 at 11:37 am

        So before 1990 our children carried guns to protect themselves, but now they are defenseless targets. I don’t remember being able to bring a gun to school in the 90’s, are you sure you didn’t mean the 1890’s. Once again the your stupidity shines brightly on the comment section of the St. George News

        • John February 27, 2018 at 11:57 am

          again, no brains. you are clueless…the democrat’s bill gave the mass shooters an obvious gallery, just like you are an obvious clueless miillenial..

          • No Filter February 27, 2018 at 12:51 pm

            If the law was so bad then why was it voted on by so many republicans? In the House alone it was 313-1, with 118 not voting, but still not enough to stop it. Also George Bush was president, he could have vetoed it? Try again John

          • Striker4 February 27, 2018 at 9:27 pm

            Oh oh John got his pretty pink panties ruffled again. lol. !

        • John February 27, 2018 at 3:31 pm

          you are one clueless liberal…duh, I spelled it out for your lame brain the first time..Who was in charge of Congress in 1990 ?
          Senate Majority Democratic
          House Majority Democratic

          • No Filter February 27, 2018 at 4:12 pm

            So because the democrats were in charge of congress it was their fault it passed? Even though most republicans voted for it and George Bush signed it but could have vetoed it. So since the Republicans are in charge now how come they didn’t pass a new health insurance bill to replace Obama care? And why can’t they pass a budget without putting our government on shut down.
            Senate Majority Republican
            House Majority Republican

            Your thoughts John….

      • bikeandfish February 27, 2018 at 12:03 pm

        That’s only part of the story. Lets analyze your claim that “school shootings started after ….1990”. Most are public record and show that they started long before 1990. Did you mean mass shootings? Than yeah, Columbine happened in 1999 so after the the Act your reference. You are accepting correlation as an acceptable standard so its fair to highlight the previous Assault Weapons ban ended in 2004 and more have happened in the last 13-14 years than the 1990-2004 timeframe (roughly same amount of time). Some of the worst, but not all, have utilized assault weapons.

        The problem is correlation isn’t a great metric and we are never likely to have evidence for a single cause. So its hard to point at anyone event or law and show its responsible with any real confidence.

      • PatriotLiberal February 27, 2018 at 12:36 pm

        love that you conveniently left out that the White House was headed up by a CONSERVATIVE named George H. W. Bush (He was the President back then), who gave the final approval of those laws when he signed the Crime Control Act of 1990 into law.
        I think you need to remember that laws passed on a federal level must be signed by the President before becoming law.

        A portion of the law was declared unconstitutional in 1994. It was changed in 1996 and has since upheld challenges in multiple federal courts and conservative and liberal majorities in all 3 “houses”.

        Here’s the law as it stands today.

  • DRT February 27, 2018 at 9:57 am

    In addition to the above comments, I’m going to quote Ed here for a little.
    “Unless you have ever drawn a weapon in anger, you have no idea about the myriad thoughts that go through your head, the doubts, the moral conflict at the prospect of actually taking a human life.”
    Ed, you make it sound like people who are armed are going to be drawing down on anyone who pisses them off. This is typical Ed thinking. Take a subject that you obviously know nothing about, in this case, carrying a weapon, or “packing,” and start putting everyone into the category that you obviously think you would be in. If this is your idea of the reason to carry a weapon, I thank God that you have decided not to.
    Then, “Besides, as we saw in Florida, when lives were at stake, a sworn officer of the law chose to hide rather than protect the children and confront the shooter. How would a teacher hold up under that pressure?” This of course is the way one cowardly officer responded to a situation. He has since resigned. Undoubtedly before he was fired.
    So you are making it look like all cops are cowards. This is pure BS, and you know it. What you do not know, nor any of us, for that matter, is exactly what took place here. Apparently there were also four sheriff’s deputies that did not enter the school. But what I haven’t seen anywhere is WHY they did not. You were not there, I was not there, and even though it looks very bad for the cops, we have not been enlightened to all the facts, and what these cops were thinking.
    There is a lot more in your article that I could jump on, but I will do just one more. “It’s time for the geezers to either lend a hand or step out of the way.”
    Hey Ed, you yourself are a geezer. So, are you lending an hand? Are you getting out of the way? No, you are just writing a column, spouting your normal garbage.
    I actually do enjoy your columns, and once in a great while, even agree with what you say. But as usual, you are way out of line with this.

  • bikeandfish February 27, 2018 at 10:44 am

    There is so much binary logic in this essay and the comments. Progress isn’t an either/or scenario but one in which the ball is slowly moved down field and even occasionally loses ground. “Ending racism” is likely impossible and America definitely became complacent over the decades but make no doubt the ball is moving forward. Baby Boomers were no more in agreement about what is best than millennial are or likely will be after a few more decades of maturation. More age and experience doesn’t always equate to more wisdom in decision making, and that is true from the founders to millennial. Sometimes the wisest decision comes from experiencing a single event.

    I reject this notion of good and bad when it comes to our countries past and future. We don’t need to Make America Great Again nor are millenials are best chance. Our best chance is recognizing most of us care about this country and are doing our best to move the ball forward. One party or generation wasn’t inherently right or wrong.

    I applaud these teenagers for their passion, perseverance and their own wisdom. They have managed to accomplish alot in the last few weeks. There is no evidence that they lack historical knowledge. But they will also have to work with the systems and people in place. The situation sucks as anyone in or acquainted with education knows. The mass shooting scenario is forcing millions of kids to practice “active shooter” drills and learn lessons that would be difficult to traumatizing even to adults. They are being taught to ignore the cries of their peers in hallways after doors are locked. They are being taught how to deal with being handcuffed after police arrive and until the scene is cleared. They are being taught to “run, hide, fight” for their lives. Nothing in our recent past compares to what we are forcing our students to cope with. Nothing.

    So at the end of the day I have no problem listening to this generation of kids as they encourage us to do better. But it is “us” that needs to do better.

  • St Geo February 27, 2018 at 11:05 am

    Ed asks a valid question, ” what makes those pushing for weapons in the classroom so sure that a teacher would be able to drop the hammer on a bad guy with a gun?”

    What makes me so sure is that when it comes down to the nitty gritty of a teacher and his or her students being murdered if he or she does nothing, I’m pretty sure I’ll give the teachers the benefit of a doubt that they will protect and defend those whom they have a responsibility of caring for.
    Such a question seems like such a no-brainer if an active shooter in the hallway were to come through the classroom door where I were the teacher with a gun.

    • John February 27, 2018 at 12:02 pm

      It’s all in the psychology. A teacher does not have to be armed. The threat that someone might be armed in the school will make a shooter think about it. Most of them seem to be cowards . That’s why they strike in “gun free zones”. If you don’t see “gun free zones” as the problem, you are part of the problem.

      • PatriotLiberal February 27, 2018 at 1:11 pm

        “The threat that someone might be armed in the school will make a shooter think about it. Most of them seem to be cowards .”

        most schools have trained and armed police officers (They’re called “School Resource Officers, FYI) on site every day.

        Yet mass shootings at schools are on the rise.

        Obviously that threat you mentioned is stopping them.

        Keep confusing Fact with Fantasy, John.

        • John February 27, 2018 at 3:32 pm

          hahahahaha!! the living oxymoron gives another libtard comment..get a clue !

          • Striker4 February 27, 2018 at 9:29 pm

            The clue is obvious dimwit

        • John February 27, 2018 at 3:41 pm

          No law has ever stopped a criminal, That’s why they are called criminals.. More laws is not the answer and the 2nd Amendment is not negotiable. Blaming the NRA for this shooting is like blaming AAA for car accidents or NIMH for mental illness. What’s funny is you liberals are swallowing every piece of BS the MSM feeds you. Making guns illegal will work just like making heroin illegal works so well. Ever notice there are no mass shootings at gun shows? I wonder why?

          • No Filter February 27, 2018 at 4:15 pm

            Except for the fact that AAA and NIMH don’t pay politicians to stop laws that would hurt their bottom line in gun sales and membership fees.

          • John February 27, 2018 at 5:55 pm

            The stupidity that slips out of the mouth of no brains is astounding…School safety is what’s important moron.. not gun laws.. keep drinking that KOOL-AID..hey no brain, how long has your family been swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool?

  • comments February 27, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    Special Ed, I agree completely with your statement that you and all the other baby boomers have failed this society miserably.

    This might sound a little callous to say, but I truly hope the next mass shooting doesn’t involve a bunch of teeny tweeny boppers. Having seen several newscasts with whining teenies and their immature childlike political views and testimonies really grates on me for some reason.

    I have to wonder how many teenies have been killed in this nation from car wrecks, drug overdoses, and suicides since the massacre on the 14th.

    When compared to overall causes of deaths among teenies and young adults in this nation I’d bet these massacres are so extremely rare as to be statistically not even a tiny blip on the radar. The leftists are gonna play this out with illogical emotional pleas as far as they can in their push for a giant gov’t gun grab. Sulking, crying, whining angsty teenies being paraded around is an underhanded agenda by those who’d like to actualize a gov’t gun grab. I’m glad it’s not gonna happen.

    As someone who’s not ‘a whole lot’ older than millenials I’ll go ahead and say that I have no faith in them changing things for the better. The internet/iphone/social media age has made them extremely dumbed down and ignorant/oblivious. They will be every bit as bad as you and your fellow boomers, Over the edge, Eddy.

    Cheers 😉

  • PatriotLiberal February 27, 2018 at 8:34 pm

    Earlier today I wrote a comment questioning why we care more about what an AR-15 is actually called and it was blocked. Meanwhile so-called ‘conservatives’ like John are allowed to post horrible, demeaning comments that contribute nothing. Also it seems the majority of columnists here are so far right they make Fox News look like a liberal haven…

    When did stgnews trade journalistic integrity to become another conservative blog?

    • John February 27, 2018 at 9:54 pm

      waaah waaah waaaah! call the waaaaambulance, that patriot liberal is crying again ..hahahahahaha!

    • No Filter February 28, 2018 at 9:04 am

      I had a post get blocked as well, your not the only one.

  • John February 27, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    Liberals, it’s not about more gun control laws. It’s about making the schools safe. The 2nd Amendment is not up for negotiation. So, drop it already !

    • bikeandfish February 28, 2018 at 11:43 am

      You don’t understand the Constitution or case law if you think such a fundamental stance is accurate.
      Plus, we have been making schools safer for years and yet these keep happening. This issue will not be solved with just one isolated solution, and that is true for just trying to pass any gun control as well.

  • Striker4 February 27, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    everything is up for negotiations stupid

    • John February 27, 2018 at 9:57 pm

      your’e a moron and no the 2nd is not up for any negotiation..learn what inalienable means ! I know you had to ride the short bus your whole life but all that rehab didn’t do any good

      • bikeandfish February 28, 2018 at 11:40 am

        I know what inalienable rights are and also know that phrase is never used in the Constitution. I also know even honored conservative SCOTUS judges have stated that the protections of the 2nd are not unlimited.
        I personally doubt an assault weapons ban is now Constitutional, ie post Heller, but time will tell. Currently SCOTUS has rejected to hear two appeals regarding state assault weapons bans so its hard to predict what will happen with any certainty.

        • John February 28, 2018 at 2:03 pm

          loud , longwinded and pointless as usual for walkandworm..

        • John February 28, 2018 at 2:23 pm

          Not only can congress not repeal a constitutional amendment, but even if they could it would not by itself change anything about ‘gun control’ or the rights of any citizen of any state to keep and bear arms. (The process of amending the constitution is very plainly spelled out in the constitution)

          The 2nd Amendment DOES NOT GRANT THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS! It protects a right presumed already to exist. And repealing that protection doesn’t by itself touch on that extant right. Further roughly 2/3rds of the States have explicit protections of the right bound into their state constitutions.

          The Horse is dead, give it a rest.

          • bikeandfish February 28, 2018 at 3:28 pm

            Wrong again. I thought you knew the Constitution, John? An amendment can never be removed but it can effectively be repealed by another amendment. Not likely to happen but it is possible.

            Yes, our nation’s historical text reference inalienable and natural rights but not so for our Constitution. Its an important distinction your post lacked.

            And federal law supercedes state law so if a new amendment were passed banning certain rights or guns then federal law would be the standard. Pretty basic civics, John.

            The gun debate is not dead. You never deal in specifics. And in this situation ARs are in uncertain territory until a SCOTUS ruling specifically deals with them. Right now two states have successfully banned them and SCOTUS refused to take cases to hear appeals to them. I tend to think the bans will eventually be ruled unconstitutional but that is currently a guess.

            Nothing in law or constitutional rulings resembles your fundamentalist take on the 2nd Amendment. Get use to that reality.

        • John February 28, 2018 at 3:47 pm

          the horse is dead and you are WRONG..hahahaha! no matter how much you cry!

          • No Filter February 28, 2018 at 4:17 pm

            Don’t you have a clean up on isle 6 to deal with? Or is it cleaning the coffee machines that is your job, I can’t remember?

          • bikeandfish February 28, 2018 at 4:20 pm

            So if the horse is dead than why have two states successfully banned assault weapons and survived appeals?

            The problem is you always lack nuance and critical thinking in your post, John. You take unsustainable stands and then result to childish name calling when people prove you wrong.

            At the end of the day you have no evidence to back up your assertion that the gun control debate is dead. Its alive and well and will be for years.

        • John February 28, 2018 at 6:55 pm

          OH, and just for your information, you CAN buy an AR 15 in every one of the 50 states because it is NOT an assault weapon.. hahahahahahaha! you just can’t handle being wrong, lets see what stupid left wing garbage you come out with next Nancy!

  • John February 27, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    let me clear that up for you
    The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.
    It must be capable of selective fire.

    “Semi-automatic-only rifles like the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.” It is what it is and and assault rifle it is NOT ! If you were ever in the military , you would know these differences, But since you are a PINO patriot in name only we won’t go so hard on you because you cry so easily

  • commonsense February 28, 2018 at 8:38 am

    Millennials ARE the mess. Entitled, emotionally fragile and mostly dillusional, millennials can’t even cope with day to day challenges without a safe place. With the diaper pin as their symbol, millennials march for a free pass into the adult world. God save America because this next generation can’t even decide which bathroom to use.

    • John February 28, 2018 at 9:32 am

      Commonsense, you are so right ! They produce wimps like patriot liberal who cries when somebody other that them exercises their 1st Amendment right of free speech and then cries even more when you use your 2nd Amendment right to defend yourself. It just goes to prove that not a single one of them has even the most basic of understanding of “The Constitution” let alone what the “Bill of Rights” is. Always remember that when a liberal calls you stupid or a moron, take it as a compliment. They are admitting you are smarter than they are and they don’t even realize it ! hahahaha!

    • bikeandfish February 28, 2018 at 11:36 am

      Thats a ridiculous stereotype. Folks have been mocking millennials for years and it all relies on gross stereotypes that the vast majority of citizens in that generation don’t match. As Ed pointed out, in one of the few details I agree with, this a common tension between older and younger generations.

      • John February 28, 2018 at 1:58 pm

        and the shoe fits you so well, no wonder you are crying….

        • bikeandfish February 28, 2018 at 3:19 pm

          Another assumption by John. Another swing and a miss; I’m not a millennial.

          • John February 28, 2018 at 3:48 pm

            If you aren’t, why then do you eat tide pods and always spout long winded pointless misinformation?

          • No Filter February 28, 2018 at 4:12 pm

            I think I figured John out, he is either a punk kid, maybe 12 years old being stupid or a Russian troll. Either way he is the only person who believes the words that come out of his mouth. I for one would love to know how he can prove you eat tide pods? Maybe he is Psychic?

          • bikeandfish February 28, 2018 at 4:46 pm

            I fear he is actually an older guy who just resorts to childish strategies.

            The Tide Pod comment is telling of his desperate attempts to stay current. But at least he is slowly abandoning the 3 year old, failure of an insult “snowflake”. Heck, I’d pay for him to go to an alt-right troll convention just to hear some diversity in his petty name calling.

          • John February 28, 2018 at 7:31 pm

            This is you…hahahaha!
            Why Egomaniacs Have To Have The Last Word

            This feeling is short-lived as it is only a state of mind, and most people who have any sense of understanding of human psychology knows that people that do this are only doing it because they feel insecure, competitive, hardheaded and lack confidence often in their own intellect or are in need of covering tracks.

            Greek Methodology explains this well. Echo, a mountain nymph, had to have the last word in everything, and it was her undoing. While Echo was beautiful with a musical voice, and people enjoyed hearing her talk, this eventually went to her head. Echo took so much pleasure in having the last word in both arguments and normal conversations, that eventually it became her undoing. As the story goes, she fell in love with Narcissus, and he rejected her. In return she begged him not to. Narcissus broke her heart and Echo wasted away and was doomed to a very sad life.

            A person who has to have the last word is fundamentally flawed. Their flaws are for the world to see. They may be charismatic and draw people in, but if you listen to their conversations and in the modern age, look at their posts on social media, you will see a common thread of egocentricity and a need for supremacy.

            Those who have to have the last word feel uncomfortable when that power is taken away from them and they usually end up fighting or in an argument because this has been taken away from them. They lash out and look for ways to rectify this.

            People with this “disease” usually strive to be the only voice over the people around them. They often never rise to the top in career or business, so they adapt their personal profiles so that they can be seen as “winning” in some area that they feel no-one can compete.

      • John February 28, 2018 at 6:49 pm

        snowflake hahahahaha! thats you !! longwinded blowhard snowflake.. with a pompous know nothing loudmouthed attitude..Keep drinking that libtard Kool-aid..How long has your family been swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool? You have more fake left wing talking points than special eddy !

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