HILDALE – It’s been nine years since Warren Jeffs, leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, was captured by authorities. It was on Aug. 28, 2006, that the fugitive, then 50 years old, was apprehended during a traffic stop in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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In the vehicle with Jeffs at the time of his arrest were his brother and Naomi Jeffs, who was formerly married to Warren Jeffs’ father but whom Warren Jeffs took as one of his own wives after his father’s death.
“No one had any idea that he’d been running around visiting X-rated theaters, which he did in Reno … with a wife that was once his mother,” Willie Jessop, Jeffs’ former bodyguard, said.
The fact that Warren Jeffs so quickly moved in on his late father’s wives was just one of the many clues that, in retrospect, Jessop said, should have warned his followers that all was not right with their prophet.
“What was the first public statement out of Warren Jeffs’ mouth (after his father died)?” Jessop said. “That should’ve been a wake-up call to the entire city, the entire world, when he publicly got up and declared everyone was to leave his father’s wives alone, within just hours of his father’s death. No one on this planet had any desire to have any attempt … to involve themselves in Rulon’s family other than him.”
Of Escalades and empires
Jeffs’ arrest marked the beginning of the end for many once-faithful followers like Jessop. Prior to his capture, Jeffs’ ability to evade authorities had stood as a sign to his disciples that God was protecting him.
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“The innocence of the people was somewhat taken at the traffic stop, in that prior to that you go back to a level of secrecy, a level of uncertainty,” Jessop said. “And what happened in the traffic stop is Mr. Jeffs was suddenly shown that he wasn’t this … immortal person that was above being captured.”
The Cadillac Escalade Jeffs was traveling in at the time of his arrest was a red vehicle. That was significant, Jessop said, because Warren Jeffs had banned the color red, and he would never have publicly ridden around his own community in a red vehicle where followers could have seen him.
“He absolutely told them (his followers) that it was the color of the devil, or it was a color that was the devil’s color,” Jessop said.
Traveling in a red vehicle wasn’t Jeffs’ only infraction of his own rules. Photos taken of Jeffs while he was a fugitive from justice show him dressed in shorts, sunglasses and a “One Size Fits All” T-shirt – a shirt Jessop said was purchased from a Las Vegas pornography shop.
“A T-shirt referring to his private parts,” Jessop said.
“And that’s your modern-day prophet,” he added.
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FBI photos taken at the Las Vegas arrest scene show the Jeffses in “gentile clothing” – Naomi Jeffs in a pink V-neck shirt, her hair not in the prescribed bouffant and neat braid; Warren Jeffs in a T-shirt and shorts – the only allusions to his church-approved attire being black lace-up dress shoes and black socks that seem out of place paired with the casual clothing.
Among items inside the vehicle, authorities found walkie-talkies, 15 cell phones, a police scanner, laptops, wigs, sunglasses, credit cards and at least $54,000 in cash.
And there were other things in the vehicle, Jessop said; boxes Jeffs told his followers contained sacred religious records that were protected by law as clergy documents. But what the boxes really held was irrefutable proof of the crimes Jeffs had committed – including audio recordings of him having sex with young girls.
“That’s the first time the world gets a snapshot,” Jessop said. “He (Warren Jeffs) realizes that material (in the boxes) is going to be made public. … At the traffic stop, we were all told that that is the private writings of people’s personal lives; it was his communications and his impressions with God, and that they absolutely should be protected at all costs as a sacred record.
“What was actually in there was a horrific … exposure of someone who had taken little children and got them and a society to use religious language to gratify himself in the most sick and perverted ways. And it was … full of pornography with religious language (covering) the acts.”
Damning evidence
FLDS followers, including Jessop himself, didn’t believe Warren Jeffs was guilty of the crimes he had been accused of; they perceived Jeffs as a holy man who was being persecuted by the U.S. government for his religion.
“You saw the Jeffs administration, particularly Warren, use that secrecy and that idea to market that this is about religious persecution,” Jessop said. “And everyone here in the community was able to detect that they believed that they were being singled out for religious persecution, which has led to the perfect storm and the perfect crisis as to: Is Mr. Jeffs in prison today because he had sex with little girls who were as young as 12 years old, or is he in prison today for religious persecution?”
In 2007, while incarcerated at Purgatory Correctional Facility in Hurricane, Jeffs was videotaped by jail officials during a visit with his brother. (See video at top of post.) On the tape, Jeffs told his brother that he was guilty of immoral acts with his own daughters and sister and that he wasn’t the prophet.
During his incarceration, Jeffs also made confessions to his church leaders, Jessop said, placing numerous phone calls to his first counselors and some of the bishops within the FLDS church.
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But even these admissions from their prophet’s own mouth weren’t enough to convince many of Jeffs’ followers.
“It was pretty much a unanimous acceptance that the government’s motive was to discredit his power and him as a person,” Jessop said, “and everyone fell into the default position that with these confessions it would’ve required mind-altering drugs or something that … he would have been given while in (the government’s) custody; that they were intentionally putting him in a situation to discredit his own credibility.”
Legal battle over a red Escalade
Before his conviction, Jeffs told his disciples that if they would build new homes for him and his high council members, God would release them from prison by the end of that year. The fruits of that edict, a capacious mansion and surrounding properties, were purchased by Jessop at an auction in 2013.
Faithful followers, some already financially destitute, had sacrificed money and time and built their prophet’s requested homes within 60 days, Jessop said. But four years later – well after his promised 2011 release date – Jeffs remains in a Texas prison, serving a life sentence plus 20 years for sexually assaulting two young girls. He reportedly still leads the FLDS church from inside prison.
Like Warren Jeffs’ mansion, the infamous red Cadillac Escalade was also purchased by Jessop at a public auction.
Jessop, who said he’s “pretty content” driving his own Ford F-150, says he didn’t purchase the Escalade for personal use. In fact, the vehicle isn’t yet in his possession and may never be. He said the vehicle is currently in Salt Lake City in the possession of the FLDS church’s attorney.
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Though Jessop now owns the vehicle, he said the church is currently trying to negotiate possession of the Escalade and, more importantly, the contents that were found inside the vehicle at the time of Jeffs’ arrest – contents that Jessop also purchased at the auction.
The FLDS church is trying to gain possession of the Escalade and its contents “to protect the embarrassment value” and keep the contents of the Escalade from being made public, Jessop said – which is the reason he said he purchased the vehicle in the first place: to show members of the FLDS community the same things that opened his own eyes to the truth about Warren Jeffs.
Jessop said the same tug of war happened when he purchased Warren Jeffs’ mansion – the church battled him over ownership of the property. Warren Jeffs’ brothers and brother-in-law finally agreed to back off, Jessop said, after he consented to let them remove items from the compound before he took possession.
“They don’t want people to know what was in the back room of Warren’s house,” Jessop said. “They don’t want people to know that the Escalade existed, much less what was in it.”
Deep, dark secrets
Could some of the items removed from Jeffs’ mansion be similar to things found in the Yearning For Zion ranch in Texas?
In the FLDS church’s YFZ compound, Texas authorities found, among various items of evidence, a so-called “rape bed” Warren Jeffs used to have sexual relations with young girls, telling the children they’d been chosen by God and that these intimate acts were religious ceremonies.
Audio recordings revealed Jeffs’ instructions to the children, including how they were to “help” one another during the sex acts, protocol for when they were menstruating, and how their underarm hair and pubic hair should be groomed before presenting themselves to the prophet.
In 2012, the Texas Attorney General’s Office cited excerpts from Warren Jeffs’ personal diary as part of efforts to seize the YFZ compound. Contained within thousands of pages of what Jeffs called “priesthood records” were detailed instructions regarding how his followers were to build the YFZ compound – including specific guidance for constructing the bed.
The bed would be disguised as a table with a removable top and could be stored in a closet when it wasn’t in use. The bed was to be made of wood, built sturdily so it wouldn’t make noise when Jeffs used it; made long enough to accommodate his height; and have padded sides that could be raised up to hold him in place “as the Lord does His work with me.”
Excerpts from Warren Jeffs’ journal read:
There is a table, but it will be made so it can be a table or it can be a bed. It should be made so the table top can come off. It will be on wheels. … When the mattress is in place, this bench will be to the right side of the bed. …
The bed will be a size big enough for me to lay on. … It will be covered with a sheet, but it will have a plastic cover to protect the mattress from what will happen on it.
“I do believe he truly believed he was above the law and that God was backing him,” Jessop said.
Nine years and counting
FLDS followers continue to leave the church, while still others cling to their loyalty for Warren Jeffs and the only way of life they’ve ever known.
“You see people hold onto it – not because they believe; it’s because they don’t really have any good options to make a separate decision,” Jessop said.
Many church members have been isolated in “houses of hiding” all over the country and even outside of the country, he said – some of them dying in isolation, their corpses not being found until months later.
Jessop said transparency is the only protection the FLDS community has.
“More and more of that comes out,” he said. “It gives people more and more of the tools to recognize that this wasn’t a prophet; this was nothing more than another (Brian) David Mitchell. The only difference was that instead of an Elizabeth Smart, there was hundreds of Elizabeth Smarts that this man had hijacked, put in secrecy and exploited.”
“This man was a student of mind control,” Jessop went on to say. “He understood it. It was obvious (afterward) that he totally got that. He understood the power of … ‘tell me about all your confessions so that God and I can forgive you,’ and then using those to intimidate other people around you. And that system – it is not (new); he didn’t invent it. He just proved to the entire world that it still works well.”
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Warren Jeffs Cadillac Escalade, seized by authorities after Jeffs was arrested, date and location not specified | Photo courtesy of Willie Jessop, St. George News
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Isaac Jeffs, Warren Jeffs' brother, who was behind the wheel of a Cadillac Escalade Warren Jeffs was riding in at the time of his arrest, Las Vegas, Nevada, Aug. 28, 2006 | Photo courtesy of Willie Jessop, St. George News
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Warren Jeffs on a motorcycle during his time as a fugitive, date and location not specified | Photo courtesy of Willie Jessop, St. George News
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He sounds a lot like Joseph Smith. Had they been around then Jojo S would have rocked a red caddy. With dubs.
Enjoyed your descriptive writing describing a very sick human being.
The mormons that run this state knew … well the type of things that were (and still are) going on in these little plyg enclaves and they chose to keep their heads in the sand and pretend nothing was going on. They are still in denial about it, but things are slowly changing. Think of all the exploited children that the LDS could have helped but decided to turn away and do nothing. And the state of Utah didn’t even bother to prosecute the pedophile prophet–in complete denial about it they let the state of Texas do all of it. I’m sure only a tiny fraction of the pedo prophet’s crimes have been brought into light. And the mormons on this state chose not to even investigate it. Mormons = hypocrites.
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Deny, lie and do everything you can to cover up the truth until the truth can no longer be ignored. Then deny that you ever denied it, lied about it and covered it up in the first place. That is the Mormon way.
SIMONE said it all.!
Very good point fun bag. Why would Utah let Texas put him away for life when Utah had enough on him to put him away for at least 3 years? That’s IF they won which was was a pretty big if. Your absoluley right. It just doesn’t seem like a very smart thing to do.
Maybe cause Utah is run by Mormons sympathetic to the cause. Jeffs was just an extreme abomination. There are hundreds or thousands of discrete palygamists living in Utah without fear. So explain how that happens aviatormh.
Haha ok. It called evidence. The government can’t just arrest someone based on what thier neighbors are saying. Thank goodness for that. Trust me you don’t want a government that doesn’t need evidence to lock you up. With Jeff’s, Utah had an idea what was going on yes, but that’s not a enough to lock someone up and until recently nobody would come forward to testify. What do you want Utah to do. March in and arrest everyone because thier nosy neighbor made claims that they were breaking the law? If that was leagle every time you made someone mad the police would lock you up for whatever lie your accuser made against you. There is nothing Utah can do unless someone is willing to testify. And since nobody will testify what do you expect Utah to do? Violate their righs! I hope you don’t go there.
why do you feel the need to rationalize all this to yourself. The fact is: THE LEADERSHIP OF THE STATE AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE LDS CORP. KNEW THAT THESE PLYG ENCLAVES WERE/ARE FULL OF PEDOPHILES AND CHILD MOLESTERS, AND THAT LITTLE KIDS ARE BEING MOLESTED AND RAPED BY THESE GODLESS PLYGS EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND THEY CHOSE TO DO NOTHING–ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT! THE STATE OF TEXAS ISN’T CONTROLLED BY BRAINWASHED MORMONS, SO THEY CHOSE TO PROSECUTE THE PEDOPHILE PROPHET… WHAT ABOUT THIS DON’T YOU GET? OR ARE YOU JUST THAT DUMB?
oh and 422 nailed it. I wonder how many of those old men running the LDS CORPORATION are closeted plygs themselves. The truth might be shocking to a lot of Morms, but, like you, they probably find a way to rationalize it to themselves–brainwashing is a powerful too…
“Utah had an idea what was going on, yes”. You are the master of understatement. Let’s talk will to do something about it. Will to investigate, to gather evidence, to enforce the law and do the right thing. According to you Utah and an idea what was going on but did nothing about it. That’s the point. What don’t you get about that? We have aqn idea people are speeding on Bluff but we won’t send a cop there with radar to check it out. We’ll wait for a fatality then say we had an idea this might happen. That is your logic.
Oh my. Are you serious. So you actually believe that Utah was not investigating and one day out of the blue someone walked in and said “hey I want to testify” really? The state and the FBI had been trying for years to get someone to testify. They finally did, but only about underage marriage. In the meantime Texas had someone willing to testify about child abuse. They got a warrent and raided the compound. The ended up with videos, documents and people “plural” willing to testify. Now your the DA for Utah and all you have is one witness and a charge of arranging underage weddings and Texas has video, documents and testemony for charges that will put him away for life. What do you do?
LOL, ur just hopeless aren’t you. STATE OF UTAH FAILED + THE MORMONS OF UTAH FAILED = AND A LOT OF LITTLE GIRLS GOT RAPED BY “THE PROPHET”. THAT’S ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW…
Wow. I feel like I’m talking to a child that keeps repeating “I know you are but what am I?” How many women are beaten by thier partners. The cops show up but she won’t press charges. The cops leave because they can’t do anything unless she press charges. I have NEVER seen you complain about the state letting her down. I give up. You win. Tell me what the state should have done but DIDNT do.
I won’t tell you what anyone should’ve done because it doesn’t matter now. Obviously there were failures, and the losers were the child rape victims. For mormons to play it out like they “did their best” or “didn’t know” is just hypocrisy. Mormons get their hands just as dirty as anyone but then play it off like they can do no wrong, when in reality, they are much worse than the norm of secular society. So I’ll say it once again, mormon = hypocrites… is what it is…
I like this quote from a famous person. Sorry I can’t remember who just now but it goes like this “he who basis their opinion on anything other than the facts is a fool” since you continually ignore the facts because they keep getting in the way of your opinion I must conclude that you are in fact “A FOOL”
Hey STUPID you should know who you’re talking to before you go shooting your mouth off.! You have a problem with AVIATORMH that’s your problem not mine… IDIOT.!
Maybe it’s because you have no idea who your talking to before shooting your mouth off… IDIOT
It is hard to understand why Utah let it go on and on but then I’ve noticed in Utah there is a “live and let live” mentality. Could that be the reason Utah lets the plygs molest children?
It could be the “if you don’t like it, leave” mentality.
Why are we still giving this CONVICTED PEDOPHILE the time of day!? The only thing that we should be reading about SICKOS LIKE HIM is about the strides the police and others are making in the effort to STOP SICKOS LIKE HIM from hurting any more kids.
Warren Jeffs is spending 23 hours a day in a 8×10 cell, alone, and that is how he needs to stay. In my opinion, he is getting off easy.
Follow the prophet! Follow the Prophet! FOLLOW THE PROPHET! Don’t go astray!
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Follow the prophet! Follow the Prophet! FOLLOW THE PROPHET! He knows the way!
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For those of you who don’t know, these are words from an LDS Children’s Songbook. The Mormons are brainwashed from childhood to never question their “prophet”. No matter how the modern LDS Mormons try to distance themselves from the FLDS, the fact is that Joseph Smith had 30+ wives some were as young as 14 years old! Some of his wives were already married to “faithful” men!
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Wake up and see that the FLDS leaders are more like your honored Joseph Smith than any of the modern leaders – especially Thoms S. Monson.
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https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng
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http://mormonthink.com/essays-plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo.htm
All comments including this. one Were posted by ABBE… FYI dexter is my favorite name
Aviator, if you think Utah was aggressively investigating then or now you’re nuts.. Mojave County AZ did nothing for years, ignoring the FLDS. Allowing them to live in non-inspected housing without certificates of occupancy in order to avoid property taxes. Undercover documentary films about escaping palygamy. Utah goes through the motions but has no will to stop it in any way. Two governments have let it’s citizens down with a failure to care or enforce the law and turning a blind eye to the reality. One is the US Govgt failing to enforce immigration laws and the 2nd is the Great state of Utah ignoring palygamy. In 1896 Utah or the LDS church, no difference, was forced to denounce plural marriage in order to become a state. Look at the history since then with “distinguished” high ranking church and political officials still practicing the “Faith”. It’s ostrichs like you that have propogated this disgrace. I guess, according to you, that Texas is just a lot better than Utah in criminal investigations. The underlying will to do something about it and not tolerate with a wink and a blind eye had nothing to do with it.
Actually what happened in Texas had nothing to do with thier investigation. What happened was that a women from inside the compound called the police and reported the abuse of a certain girl. When the police and the FBI showed up they never did find that particular girl but because the saw many underage pregnant girls that gave them the EVIDENCE they needed to raid thier temple looking for this girl. In the temple is where the videos and documents were found. As for how other people are living thier religin. Nun my bid ness.
Aviator, If I spelled like you I wouldn’t be calling anybody a fool. Your problem is you think your facts are indisputable. That means you can’t argue them in case you didn’t understand. Also, I don’t remeber what famous person said this but it goes like this. “Aviatormh is a blithering idiot that believes her own inane dribble” Are you related to Mesaman?
Haha rock on dude!
I know what your problem is. Your expecting way to much from a halfwit. The next time you look up and see an airplane overhead I want you to say to your self “oh crap is that the halfwit”
OK, you got me. Aviator is just another ignorant character created by Dexter as one of his multiple personalities. Dexter, you are good. Aviator is your dumbest creation so far.
Thank you
Quit being MESAMAN We all know it’s you
Hey STUPID I’m not doing AVIATORMH so blow it.!
As for how aggressively it was pursued I can’t comment because I wasn’t there but clearly you were so go ahead and let me in on what facts you base that opinion on.
Let’s see, over 100 years of blatant palygamy as a part of everyday life in Utah. The attorney general Mark Shertlaff, before being indicted for bribery, openly admits the horse is out of the barn and there is nothing Utah can do in a practical sense. Sounds like the feds talking about immigration doesn’t it. They move to Texas and are broken up and thrown in prison is 2 years. So, you explain the difference. It’s obvious to me but I doubt you get it. Let me answer for you. Texas don’t put up with that crap! Utah does.
Aviatormh, you give up or want to continue to justify Utah’s failure to do ANYTHING about palygamy other than lip service to become a state 119 years ago.
Yup I give up
Hey STUPID I’m not doing AVIATORMH so blow it.!
422 IS ABBY AND I’M ABBY AND DEXTER IS ABBY, THE WHOLE SITE IS JUST ABBY TALKING TO HERSELF, AND ALL OF US ARE ABBY, SO SHUT UP STUPID
I’m sure the REAL LIFE VILLAGE IDIOT will be along any time soon
I did have one last question. Take a deep breath, hold for a moment, now exhale and relax. Consider my question and answer honestly. Any one who commented and complained about how people in Utah knew what was going on and did nothing and if you knew then this includes you. What did YOU do about it. If all you did was complain and you did nothing else then are you not the same as everyone else that your complaining about. I know you must have been actively doing something because if you weren’t then that would make YOU a hypocrite wouldn’t it? So what were you doing? Now that your feathers are ruffled try the breathing exercise again before you answer.
Dexter, stop with the aviator character. It’s getting old and too stupid.
Proverbs 11:99 An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through knowledge shall the just be delivered.
Dexter it’s a hypocrite, not an hypocrite. You can’t even quote the Bible properly. Enough with the dumb aviator persona.
u think DEX is “AVIATOR”? i dont think so?
You see this is your problem you continually make assumptions without the facts. Look it up. Proverbs 11:9. I’ll wait for you apology.
Thank you
King James 2000 Bible: “A hypocrite” There are other versions that say An hypocrite or the hypocrite. Just goes to show you the Bible has a hard time getting it right.
Thank you
Hey 422 I’m not doing AVIATORMH so shut up.!
Shut up stupid unless you know who your talking to… IDIOT
I moved here in 2005 and didnt know what was going on until the case broke from Texas and Utah, forced to do something about it, got itself in a real tizzy. Authorites including apparently Utah’s Own A.G at the time knew about it, and failed to do anything. Here is a quote from a LATimes article “Blind Eye to a Culture of Abuse”
“The fact that this has been going on all these years, and the fact that justice has not been there to protect women and children from amazing civil rights violations — it is an embarrassment,” said Utah Atty. Gen. Mark Shurtleff.
<"I don't want to indict the states of Utah and Arizona, but mea culpa — we are responsible."
Then your criticism is justified. So far your the only one with the courage to answer my question honestly. I fall into the group that did nothing about so I’m as guilty as everyone else but I can admit it and I have never pointed fingers.
Criminal Shurtleff prosecute criminal Jeffs? Pshaw! Brothers in arms stick together. They’re both creeps, they’re both criminals.
You know what they say about birds of a feather.
“The church cannot assume the role of government or law enforcement. It is not charged with doing the job of elected officials,” said Michael Otterson, spokesman for the Mormon Church. “We would not expect such an action from any other church in American society. The church can only raise its voice and explain its concerns, which it has done.”
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Guess which LDS corporation controls every facet of politics in this state? THAT’S RIGHT! THE ONE AND ONLY! MORMONS, WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR THE MORMON POLITICIANS THAT LET ALL THOSE INNOCENT KIDS GET RAPED AND MOLESTED???
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MORMONS, WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR THE MORMON POLITICIANS THAT LET ALL THOSE INNOCENT KIDS GET RAPED AND MOLESTED???
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MORMONS, WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR THE MORMON POLITICIANS THAT LET ALL THOSE INNOCENT KIDS GET RAPED AND MOLESTED???
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EVEN OLD ORRIN NEARLY ADMITTED HE APPROVES OF THE RAPE OF LITTLE GIRLS BY THOSE PEDOPHILE PLYGS. WHY DID YOU MORMONS LET THIS HAPPEN??? MORMONS, THIS IS YOUR FAULT!
Don’t forget the mormon controlled FBI
For all of those who are so quick to judge Utah and Mormons, let me give some background. Much as I am sure that Mark Shurtleff is guilty of many things, it was only due to his prosecution that Jeffs was even put on the FBI Most Wanted list. As was stated by someone earlier, all Shurtleff had to go on was an underage marriage wrap which Shurtleff pursued diligently and got a conviction in absentia. If Jeffs had not been on the Most Wanted list, he would not have been arrested at the traffic stop in the first place. He would have continued to be on the run. Shurtleff is many things but I do give him credit for that.
As to the Texas part, it was a luckily bizarre tale that was told by someone outside the compound who was “relaying” a message by one of the young girls to authorities. As was also said earlier, that girl did not exist but gave Texas the opportunity to raid the compound and find proof of much more terrible crimes by Jeffs and others.
Please realize in such a closed society as the FLDS it is only through a lucky raid like Texas pulled off that Jeffs and others (who are also in prison) was brought to justice. I’ve lived here many years and for most of those years the FLDS were sort of quaint to most of us. It is really since Warren’s trial that the true evil of his disgusting ways become to be discovered. But now, their continued use of children in their workforce should be stopped and prosecuted along with anything else that constitutes abuse of women and children. I feel sad for those who continue to be misled and hope that their society will open up and that women and children will be protected from the likes of Warren and those who would take advantage of them.
The fact is that FLDS mind control uses the same methods as LDS Inc. mind control. The “mainstream” mormons are the enablers of the pedophiles. And like I pointed out earlier, how many of the old man leaders of LDS CORPORATION are closeted plygs and child rapists themselves? There’s good reasons that they sympathize with those plygs. It’s a twisted narrative that all began with “the prophet joseph smith” way back when and continues to this day…
Karens, you make good points that need to be acknowledged. I think a lot of the frustration deals with the prior 100 years where things were “overlooked” to say the least by a government and a church that had a duty to do more. I just don’t believe there was a will or a priority to do anything about it.
WELL GEEZE, IF ‘DEXTER’ IS ‘AVIATORMH’ I GUESS WE ALL BEEN TROLLED?… BUT THE POSTING STYLE SEEMS VERY DIFFERENT… HUMM
Dexter is the ole free parking
It’s not me so 422 can just stuff it.!
All THE COMMENTS POSTED ON THIS ARTICLE WERE WRITTEN BY THE SAME PERSON…. okay 422 now you can accuse me of being everybody
Hey Dexter I’m sorry for the grief I’m causing you but until the fool stops acting like a fool we will just have to hold are breath. In still waiting for 422 to admit he is an idiot.
Aviator, let me know when you’re holding your breath and I’ll get back to you in about an hour. And it’s our breath, not are breath.
MESAMAN and 42214 are the same person
You’re right. If you don’t like it get out of town.
MY NAME IS ABBY AND I WROTE EVERY COMMENT ON THE SITE
Dexter, I was trying to give you credit for being clever. You don’t have to get nasty, you sound like Mesaman.
Shut up Nolan
WHERE IS NOLAN??? WHERE IS ABBY???
OOPS I FORGOT. I AM ABBY!
Yo ABBE. Waz up.?
My name is ABBE and I wrote every column on this site
I’M ABBEY AND I WROTE THE BOOK OF MORMON AND THE BIBLE!